These sources are the same for other fluids as well. MD3060P is my model. The clean part is then inspected for any defects that would make it unfit for sale. I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. The parts are then organized and given a bin location so they are ready to be shipped as soon as possible. Re: Allison MD3060P Specs Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:13 AM Non PTO 3000 series is 28.29" long and weighs 535lbs. You should get 17 and 19 quarts inside the transmission depending on the fluid pan used for your particular model. I have a MD3000MH transmission in my Horizon and drained it via drain plug and removed the filters to replace them. CITGO SynDurance 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, SK HD 668 Fully Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Valvoline Syn Gard 668 Automatic Transmission Fluid, Rugged 668 HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, HD SYN DRIVE Full Synthetic Transmission Fluid, PurTrax Heavy Duty Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid, Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF / Mobil Delvac 1 ATF, Transtar Allison TES Certified Full Synthetic ATF, John Deere - HD Synthetic Transmission Fluid, Castrol ATF Heavy Duty / Transmax ATF Heavy Duty, Vehicle Electrification + Environmental Test Center. Gary, you hit the nail on the head and it is good information for others who might attempt servicing their own transmission. All rights reserved. Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) lubegard complete full synthetic atf automatic transmission fluid 3 quarts (69032) lubegard. Allison MD3060 Fluid/Filter Change - Airstream Forums Airstream Forums > > Airstream Motorhome Forums > Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More. This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! For some reason I thought that I would loose enough fluid when I changed the filters that it would be practically the same as a complete refill! I received a reply to a personal message I sent to Allisonman and he responded that the two filter cavities are isolated from the main sump and if you only replace the filters without draining the sump, the 10.5 quart value is close to being correct. While you're busy planning next trip, we'll focus on finding you the offers and content that you care about. 1 MD3060.ELE03 VALVE BODY PARTS Allison 3000 Series, MD3060, MD3656. JavaScript is disabled. I don't know too much, but I read the torque on the filter bolts was 37-43 FT lbs? http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-powertrain/41978-nv5600-fso6406a-6-speed-fuller.html, http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903103, http://howards-conversions-allison.com/products.php?id=all. high Capacity Filters for allison 3000/4000 Product Families transmissions were released into allison production July 2006, beginning with the following transmission serial numbers: 6510670912 (3000 series) 6610205144 (4000 series) high Capacity Filters allow extended filter change intervals when used with an allison approved tes 295 automatic Yesterday we loaded up the motorhome and was backing up to hook up a trailer. I tried it in the parking lot before I left, but adding the 2 qt of "cold" oil to the transmission cooled the fluid below the point where the auto level check will work, so I decided to drive back home which involves about a 3 mile uphill grade, knowing that would heat it up to the proper temp. If you have difficulty registering an account, logging in or need other account-related assistance, send us a message and well get back to you shortly. I realise that they are conservatively rated, just like a B Cummins in a MDT compared to a Dodge. Allison 1000 Transmission Fluid Capacity You may get tired of hearing this, but there are three good sources for knowing your Allison transmission fluid capacity. . Thanks for the input so far! Allison Approved synthetic fluids provide extended drain intervals and offer thermal and viscosity advantages over conventional petroleum based fluids, as well as other synthetic fluids. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program, http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx, Privacy center (Do not sell or share my personal information), Other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 and TES-468 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. Gary. forum.dieselrvclub.org/index.php?topic=7495.0, Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 15_5 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/15.5 Mobile/15E148 Safari/604.1. Copyright 1999 2023 GoDaddy Operating Company, LLC. This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. If a fluid change is necessary, then you should switch to TranSynd (or one of the other TES-295 approved fluids) and change the filters to the new Allison "High Capacity" filters. ~Gyn|YDpQ K>1\T3 ;Q'
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Most of the Allison literature indicates the onboard system is far more accurate than the dipstick, but the dipstick would give an "estimate" of fluid content. Returns will only be processed within 10 business days of the delivery of the item. But if so, why does the dipstick continue to show full after driving many, many miles? Exceptional thermal and oxidation stability. Nowhere in my 2005 Chevrolet 3500 owners manual does it give me (that I could find) the capacity for the Alison transmission coupled with the 6.6 turbo diesel. Allison Approved Fluids that are synthetic based offer improved viscosity that other fluids can't offer. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thanks again. Any help will be appreciated. Horsepower rating is up to 370hp and 1100lb/ft torque on the transmission. 982797. All website features may not be available based upon your cookie consent elections. The filter holds about 1.2 quarts, so where did the rest go? The PTO is rated at 485ft/lbs using one PTO and just over 600lb/ft for both. The time that the refund appears on your card is dependent on your card issuers policy. I think the HPCR Cummins has the CANbus mentioned above, but not 100%. We take your privacy rights seriously and we are dedicated to the protection of your personal data. This is a very common. deduction of the original shipping cost. Theis generation ushered in the computer-based diagnostic era, which meant you could use a variety of diagnostic tools to connect to the Allison Transmissions to read codes, clear codes, perform diagnostic commands, and more. Work Order. So sometimes you would be changing your filters without changing the fluid, I guess? Also fairly inexpensive for a rebuild or to find used. We have a 1997 Discovery motorhome with 5.9 Cummins and an Allison MD3060 six speed transmission on a Freightliner chassis. You are using an out of date browser. The customer will pay the shipping cost for the return of the item. If you crawl underneath, there should be a metal plate with model and serial number on the driver's side of the transmission. How is a tranny that huge and from a MH only rated at 275hp?? I have had Transynd put in several years ago. If you use the truck strictly for work, this is a great trans to use. Use our locator tool to find out where to buy Mobil Delvac products in your area. Introducing the next generation of synthetic on-highway automatic transmission fluid, Allison Transmission TES 668. Well, the excitement is not over yet. For a better experience please use a browser other than your current version of Internet Explorer. Refunds will then be initiated to your credit card (or original method of payment). The drain plug I removed was not on the torque converter and was located in the transmission cast aluminum pan. Maybe the drain plug you removed was on the torque converter? I had a transmission fluid change-over at 7000 miles. The fluid level was checked and was 3. If you wish to set a specific communication frequency or otherwise update your preferences, please visit the following link to modify your settings: Preference Center. It's pretty much "fill for life". I have been thinking about this for two days and decided to go ahead and change the fluid again, without removing the filters. I have the deep sump so it will take the 4 inch filters. Also in some other old posts there was talk of having custom ECMs for allison 2400's and they were talking about 4 different companies that made parts for allison swaps. Transmission Model. Allison Transmission (A 629 540 43 00) On-board diagnostics, 15. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. DESCRIPTION YEARS QTY PART NO Allison 3000 Series, MD3060, MD3656 HARD PARTS 801A Piston, Lock-up Apply (MD3060) 1 MD3060.PIS01 NI Cover/Diaphragm With Seal . DESCRIPTION YEARS QTY PART NO ILL NO. This website uses cookies. I was just wondering if it was complicated or any tips that would make it easier? If you copy the serial number, you can go the the Allison website and get all the info on your transmission. My next plan is to take a highway run and then check for any leaks, and use the electronic indicator to tell me if it is OK. Why would the dipstick always register so high on the dipstick when it is cold? If so, view our frequently asked questions below to find the answer you are looking for. Thanks. Allison Transmission TES 389 Approved Fluids are approved for use in traditional on-highway products. I measured the amount that I drained out (1/2 gal.) Is that on a Freightliner chassis? Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More Airstream Trailer & Motorhome Owners Community, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. When it is at operating temperature I always use the UP and DOWN arrows. They also suggest fluid type, capacity, and filter #s. My Allison. The trans is currently behind a 5.9 cummins in a ford, but I am trying to figure out info on swapping to the dt466 I seem to remember a forum where there were some guys making internationals into 4x4's, anyone else know that forum? The unit wouldnt allow me to start the RV which is a 1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor. Return Address: Significant wear reduction and long transmission life. I torqued the bolts to 40. Fleece performance has some Ally controllers as does Howard's but good luck getting him to answer the phone. If you want that capacity in liters, then you are looking at 28 liters for the deeper pan and 25 for the shallower or regular pan. Faster shipping methods are available at an additional cost. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. Not sure when last service was done on engine, so I'm changing out all the fluids and filters. Glad that one is solved. What's The Best Cordless Vacuum For RVers? Thread Tools Display Modes On the road and the engine will not idle | Top | P30 split diagonal brake system? We will call you for shipping & payment information. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 Really have a lot of hold back all the way down low. I only lost 1/2 gallon in the process? Allison Transmission Lubricant Capacities. Allison MD3060 fluid level iRV2.com Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. Provides prompt and reliable lubrication at sub-zero ambient temperatures down to 54 C. Leads to viscosity retention even under the severest heavy duty, high temperature operating conditions. Anyone else have high fluid on their dipstick? Your privacy is important to us and we want you to understand our practices with respect to the gathering and handling of your personal data. The Allison that's the top dog (for a DT466)would be the MD3060. and 29 qts. The synthetic base oil composition enables excellent performance even in some of the harshest operating conditions. The robust formulation of TES 668 meets the most demanding specifications related to fluid stability, lubrication and cold operation. ALLISON MD3060 TRANSMISSION 1996. and when I tried to pour it back in with a funnel and a clear plastic hose, it fills the tube fast and runs out the top! Often, restricted air flow through the CAC and radiator causes your symptoms and a simple cleaning can restore your cooling system to its original capacity. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. endstream
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IMHO, a xmission that costs >15K, needs to be treated with caution. Thanks Gary. Gary. There a few things to be aware of so I thought I'd share. Truck Information Came From:? And your filters every 36 months? Thanks for understanding. Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @, Your privacy is important to us and we want you to understand our practices with respect to the gathering and handling of your personal data. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is a fully synthetic fluid recommended by Allison Transmission, Inc. and approved against the Allison TES-295 and TES-468 Specifications. Shipping is done through Canada Post and is usually delivered in 4 or 5 business days. The Allison MD3060's torque converter is locked up in "high" second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth gear, so the transmission is not a big heat factor, even on steep grades. Posts: 19,927. Regular fluid and filter maintenance is the simplest thing you can do to ensure the performance and durability of your Allison fully automatic transmission. The law states that we can store cookies on your device if they are strictly necessary for the operation of this site. This helps us guarantee that there are no defects in any of the parts we send out. Thanks for the input so far! Now if only I could figure out why I drain 5.5 gallons of oil from my ISL engine, but have to put almost 7 gals back in to read "full". Qty 1. I get two different capacities 26 qts. Not something you want to have happen!!!!! Contact us: Call for Price Plus Shipping & Handling. Anybody ever anything to do with the Allison MD3060 6 speed tranny? Come join the discussion about trail reports, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, fabrication, drivetrain, and more! The transmission went into neutral and the shift panel display for the Allison went blank. Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I am working on swapping a standard transmission in an international 4900 series over to an allison md3060. Further, it improves overall transmission durability and cleanliness. These tables are a little confusing to me! 181 0 obj
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it does shift slow and when it shifts you KNOW it shifts. If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. The Allison Owner's manual is not really clear on this point. Canada. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. Gary, Here is the end of the story! I thought that I would lose a lot more than that. Allison Transmission TES 295 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. HOWEVER, when I read the Owner's manual and other tech information on the internet, they all say that only about 10.5 quarts will drain during a filter change and that the rest of it is trapped in the valve body and torque converter. $62.88 $54.77 $69.95. Keeps transmissions clean to extend life and performance even under some of the harshest driving conditions. If you have any more questions please contact us. I read that it takes 29 quarts so I am curious about how many I will have to buy so as not to have too many extra gallons of $35.10 oil left over! Thanks Gary. Thanks Ned and Gary, those are good ideas. I guesss it wouldn't be so bad if I had known what I know now. This product has the following approvals: VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 013 -Extended Drain, VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 118 - Extended Drain, Brookfield Viscosity @ -40 C, mPa.s, ASTM D2983, Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Kinematic Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @ http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx. . Then, you'll be good for 300,000 miles before another transmission fluid change is needed unless it gets contaminated. For all other types of cookies we need your permission. Do not use this link to ask for help with RV-related issues; Ask those questions in one of our forums. Thought you would be interested in this article/resource and could find it useful. Hi Brett. Location 21C2. http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=6. Then you won't have to do it again for 100,000 miles. We will not accept a return on ANY electronic items for any reason. The BestCounty Park CampgroundsFor RVe Where Can I Have Packages Delivered While On The R Plan Your RV Route & Find Campgrounds Like a P Don't Miss Carolina Pines RV Resort In South Carol Know How To Prevent A Space Heater Fire In Your RV. We use cookies to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. TES 668 builds upon the proven 20-year record of TES 295 synthetic fluid by delivering the same great performance with a modern additive package. It offers outstanding gear shifting and power transfer performance. JavaScript is disabled. We Have You Covered Extended Transmission Coverage (ETC) Harness the Power of Genuine TES 668 Transmission Fluid Your Fleet of Information Allison HUB Premium Allison Genuine Reman Ready When You Are My Transmission and Fluid + Filter Calculator pages are now located on the HUB under SERVICE menu HUB Account Login Username Password Log in [$EM
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Thanks for the tip on leaving one of the bolts in so I don't get a bath. If you have any adivce you can give me on this I would appreciate it. Key features and benefits include. Manufacturer Allison Model MD 3060 Condition Takeout Transmission Part Numbers Serial#: 6510078702, Part#: 29514781, Other#: 96 E 02. Allison Transmission Fluid and Filter Changing IMPORTANT: For oil and filter change intervals, see the applicable Allison Operator's Manual. Allison Extended Transmission Warranty (ETC) Allison Service + Care. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. As was said, these transmissions are HUGE! If anyone else can think of anything else, I appreciate it. The first is to check your owner's manual to see what the manufacturer says. allison md-3060 md-3560 transmission parts & rebuild kits. we have the MD3070PT in a couple trucks at work. Attn: Consumer Lubricants, Looking for the status of a rebate?Visit mobil.rebateresearch.com or call 1-866-895-9127. is rated (and warrantied) for. In order of favorables: #1, MD3060 #2 . . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Most parts are then painted to ensure that they stay in the best shape possible until we ship them out. Thanks everyone for all the replies. You are not interested in total transmission capacity. The fluid is designed to meet the demanding requirements of modern heavy-duty automatic transmissions. Cookies are small text files that can be used by websites to make a users experience more efficient. The reason I am looking at the MD3060 is there is one close I can pick up for the same cost as an Allison AT545. By signing up for ExxonMobil Lubricants marketing communications using this form, you agree to accept the frequency of communications as deemed appropriate by our campaign manager. 180 ILL NO. Helps improve overall and extends transmission efficiency, smooth shifting performance and fuel economy. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is recommended by ExxonMobil for use in: Call 1-800-662-4525 with product questions. Here is a video on some issues I had with my Allison MD3060 WTECII control module. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Help on switching browsers can be found online. bench buddy 4-piece brush set for valve bore polishing & more: bb100 by superior . A forum community dedicated to custom off-road vehicle owners and enthusiasts. To purchase an Allison approved fluid, use the Sales + Service Locatorto find an Allison Authorized Distributor in your area. On Shelf . Our Website may also enable third-party tracking mechanisms to collect data over time and across unaffiliated websites for use in interest-based marketing. As I've had the dealer change the fluid when I bought the truck in 2015, it's the first time for me changing the tranny fluid/filter. add to cart. All of our parts are cleaned and inspected before shipping to ensure that they are in good condition. Most MD3060 (at least the shallow sumps) take around 19 quarts for a chance (not initial fill). I'll try that and give Freightliner a call also. The synthetic base oil composition enables excellent performance even in some of the harshest operating conditions. Allison Technical Assistance Center (TAC) Fluid + Filter Information. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. Best Way To Siphon Gas From My 2019 E450 Class C? Thanks! Allison recommends that customers using TES 295 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. Many motorhome manufacturers use the 4" sump which uses the 6" filters. I don't know if that even figures into this operation. First time go to an Allison shop, be a pest and observe. Allison recommends that customers using TES 389 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. I have not done this before, but am going to do it in the next week. Gary I do have a transmission dipstick and hadn't thought about using that. Allison Automatic Filter & Fluid Change Don Smith 27.3K subscribers Subscribe 431 Share 75K views 6 years ago Allison 4000 series automatic transmission filter and fluid change procedure.. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. I've decided this is one of life's mysteries that I will never come to know, so as long as the engine is happy I buy the 7 gals of 15W40 and a new filter every year and pour myself an adult libation to celebrate when I'm done. I hope you have enough room to work with. ?pQgu&a>Txdp @'zK(/c35Or(0no9fL*WKczQbwRPP`*!,ls|r8RRFg,k,;KweF~n*LfxOH
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