PO BOX 292. @Fran Lynne- Thanks for clearing that up. A storm of persecution broke out because these Baptist preached what the Puritans called damnable errors. Most of the members of the church were fined or imprisoned or both, at one time or another. So I wonder again is this God desire or your thing? Also, those who God draws will come to Christ and believe in Him. A comprehensive Independent Baptist Church Directory listing over 8000 churches. He was talking about ceremonial law not moral law I think you are confusing those two. The Baptist church that I attend used the entire Bible, all 66 books. Unfortunately, serious Bible study is in short supply these days. On May 28, 1665, a Baptist church was founded in Boston, by Thomas Gould, who refused to accept infant baptism. A preacher told me once we were not to judge, but that we were to be fruit inspectors. The crucial point is not that they called themselves Baptists, but they followed the Bible as their sole authority for faith and practice. They are the only group into modern times whose churches were founded on the Scriptures alone and not on the traditions or works of some man. Church Directory Sub-pages. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. To say there is a unbroken line or succession of Baptist churches from the time of Christ until today cannot be shown from history. We are looking for passionate defenders of the faith and offer a viable alternative to New Evangelical and compromising mission boards. HWY 3 NW. Surely, no church that practiced false doctrine, as many of these groups did, can in truth be called a Baptist church. Updates? Im not sure how they upkept thier Synagogue & relate dcostbut if Im not mistaken I learned during a conference that they actually gave more than our equivalent of a tenth in regards to thier goods/wealth (like mince, spices, etc)and perhaps separate monetray covered that cost or these items were bartered/traded to pay bills. If it furthers & advances the Kingdom of God (the Church, Evangelism, Missionaries, etc), then I believe it is going to God. We have the personal presence of the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us, why would we want to follow rules that were intended for people living in the power of the flesh? Im not saying thats the case only sharing my experience & by Gods grace I have done so I believe. She eventually left because my uncle (divorced numerous times himself), rode her case about it. Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. Rachael God bless you!! I know that we dont use argriculture in the same way they did. It is well also to note that these five distinctives are traits also of the true New Testament church! For IFB churches, most use this as a baseline in their giving with II Cor 9:7 for guiding in the heart of giving. History records the members of this Baptist church went back to England or remained in Holland and joined Mennonites. The one caution I would give is to allow God to speak to you through the scriptures, that is the most critical. Hi, in your opening statement use say that God has not party with them, those who operate under any systems of hierarchy set up by man over the authority of the local church. Im referring to a mistake I made in my fairly long comment, which you may not have seen yet, once you do youll understand I was correcting a statement in my next to last paragraph. @ Bob & Greg, I cant say how much I agree with your posts. King James, Fundamental, Independent Baptist Resources. God knows if he ever accepted Jesus Christ as his Saviour. Shall we simply eradicate all sermons about sin? So how all USA (& most Developed Nations tithe, etc) is no different than at my IFB Church fellowship I attend. That is just my pointyou I fear are dedicating a almost hate site for this denomination when its no reason tovs just warning sagnist all bad behavior. One of the best sources I have found concerning His nature, the Nature of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is at the following link: Gayle Erwin does a wonderful teaching on the nature of God. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "lifewaymarket-20"; amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; amzn_assoc_region = "US"; amzn_assoc_linkid = "7e0c08952d33ff8dd3379356ab6731f1"; amzn_assoc_asins = "1479180297,B00A4SKJXG,1250026261,0830816607,0809134888,0884197689,B00X531UN0,0877888256,0764205374"; amzn_assoc_title = "BaptistDeception.com Book Club Picks"; This was the birth of Protestant churches. Independent fundamental Baptist churches include those loosely affiliated in fellowshipsmore common in the Northas well as those whose pastors may share particular networksmore common in. The faulty logic here comes from not paying attention to the Scripture. Although, this was the first Baptist church to be founded on American soil there is no recorded offspring from this church and modern American Baptist churches can not trace their history directly to it. The crime of these men was that they believed the Bible was Gods Truth, and rejected dictates of false churches and men. Calvary Chapels do not believe that baptism is necessary for membership in a local assembly. This lasted only one Sunday however, and the following Sunday the doors were opened and services held in defiance of the order. He returned to Salem where he was summoned before the court in Boston because of his outspoken beliefs and was banished from the colony. Typically they take the following verse an stretched it like a balloon: Don't expect anything contemporary or liberal. The pastor's name is Kevin Draganac. When the Roman Emperor declared Christianity the religion of Rome, he in mass converted hordes of pagans which made up the Empire. Lynne, The tourists and the police finally separated after hundreds of dollars changed hands. Therefore if a church is teaching Tithe is mandatory or sin if not donethey are I believe in error. Really!! Tithing was never required for anyone except Jews who lived under the Mosaic economy. I cannot know. I do not agree with the IFB on their viewpoint of strict dress standards. Matthew 7:1&2, Judge not, that ye be not judged. 4.) In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. I have heard people argue that a certain type of dress is more attractive to the world, or woman wearing dresses sets them apart as being different. The charge recorded against him was that he broached and divulged new and dangerous opinions against the authority of the magistrates. 3:1-16) However, some Independent Baptist churches do not accept that the word officer is the proper biblical term to be used and particularly does not apply to deacons. Though many people including Websters Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. I was able to better understand the New Testament. Dont misunderstand, I believe we are to preach and testify, but, from what I understand no ones blood will be on my hands if they wind up in Hell. Not all IFB churches are this way. Tithing is a good thing to do & I believe God can be glorified if done with right heart, intent & purporses. Please elaborate, Should have said of course no singing with musical accompaniment.. In North Carolina the first Baptist church was started in the northeastern coastal region at Perquimans, in Chowan County in 1727. Founded in June of 1980, International Baptist Missions is a ministry of Tri-City Baptist Church. Later, he escaped and became a Christian missionary. I posted my last post like 3 days ago and it just came up recently. Jesus didnt find it necessary to dress differently than anyone else, why should the MOG? It can be historically determined that forty seven Baptist churches were in existence before the Great Awakening. His resources are free from this sight. 2 Timothy 2:15, Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. These churches appear to have been baptistic and remained sound until Austin, the Catholic monk brought Catholicism to the Isles in 597 AD. I think it is exactly right to see that without divine drawing, no one ever would come to Christ. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). I request any comment left to me is free of insults and vulgarities, please). Someone, somewhere has hurt you. Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. It is difficult to document these congregations because they were rarely in the spot light of history. We give out of thankfulness to God for what Christ has accomplished as we are led by the Spirit. Read all (mor ethan on epost under name Lynne). Whether these groups of believers called themselves Baptists or not, if they were doctrinally pure, following the New Testament for their faith and practice they were New Testament churches and thus they can be called Baptistic. There he became the pastor of the Puritan church. When people ask me what church I am a member of, I always tell them the Heavenly Church, wherever and whoever that is. In 1631, he arrived in Boston. Just because all churches do something a certain way (whether its tithing, tithing a tenth, standing on their heads when they pray, or whatever) doesnt make it correct. This is whats known as the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. These people give Jesus and Christianity overall a black eye every time they go to a military funeral or any other event they have absolutely no respect for. adhering to correct doctrine and proper practices should be the focus in our lives. He tells us all the time he can tell we are believers because we are different in how we treat him and others in our neighborhood. They tried to establish that according to history, Baptists have an unbroken line of churches since Christ. Biblically neither Deacons or Trustees are a governing body, or a board, but titles of special appointed servants who serve at the will of the pastor and congregation. I would also venture to say the same of you, which you said of me. In Amsterdam, he with Thomas Helwys and thirty six others formed the first Baptist church of English people known to have stood for baptism of believers only. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. No church in the NT took that label. . Failure to pay the tax brought the wrath of the civil and church leaders and people were publicly beaten, placed in stocks, fined, imprisoned, and banished from the colony by the civil authorities under the direction of the Puritan church officials. Jesus as clearly as the Son of God could tells us says (John 6:37-39,43 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. Lynne, Hope this clears up some confusion. Each year members profess 16 articles of faith that include the original five points of fundamentalismthe literal truth of divinely inspired scripture, the Virgin Birth and deity of Christ, substitutionary atonement through Christ, the Resurrection, and the Second Coming of Christ. I chose to focus on the doctrine of separation as typically understood by Independent Baptists (I was one). He continued to read the New Testament, and became fully aware that infant baptism, sprinkling for baptism, and allowing unsaved people to be members of the church was not Scriptural. Since there is no membership at CCs, the congregation neither votes a pastor in, nor can vote their pastor out, if necessary, unlike a Baptist church. Again Im not sure what the Word of God sais about dress. Reasons for NOT Accepting the KJV as Gods Preserved Word A response to Pastor James Melton, 71. Knolleys joined other dissenters left England. So just these few examples demonstrate why many people, including me have a hard time understanding this ancient translation. What gets my goat on this style of preaching is that as much as these baptists act as though they follow nothing but the scripture, it seems they dont read it or study it much. Today there are at least a hundred different groups which all themselves Baptist. Many of these churches have conflicting beliefs and practices. He was heavily fined and then imprisoned. But this issue is just another one that the IFBs get wrong, worrying themselves over externals as opposed to the internals. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Martin Luther until his death held to this false sentiment and disputed with the Swiss reformer Ulrich Zwingli (1484-1531), over the matter. (I do love acapella singing, btw.). Members are encouraged to post contact information for such churches. I really dont know how to describe it. The idea the bread and wine (grape juice) in the Lords Supper becoming the physical body of Christ when taken is a Roman Catholic teaching that Protestants only changed slightly. I heard an absolutely beautiful message, very uplifting, of course no singing, (Btw I like acapella singing, no biblical reason for it though) also didnt talk about baptism that day. He strongly believed in separation of church and state and upheld the principles of soul liberty. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9. For instance, if I was regularly wearing a swim suit or Scooby Doo costume to any Church I would probably be asked to Change into something more appropriate. Alsoas in regargds to whom Jesus spoke to (they were Phairsees)I dont think that matters, the Phairsee just happened to be the ones constantlty questioning & troubling Himas well as were the Religious Leaders of that day whom example was probally looked at by others to follow (note Jesus: Do the things that they teach, Jesus said, But do not do the things that they do). Like I alluded to earlier most folks dont study their bible, and many do so with preconceived ideas, please have a look at your churchs stance on these issues according to scripture and see if Thomas Campbell is right about these things. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.. Im not sure about this one. Thank you for your help! Even some TV evangelists have referred to themselves as being fundamentalist. The church government of many Independent Baptist churches are to have pastors and deacons as officers of the local church. Fundamental Baptists are strict in interpreting the Bible in a literal sense. Member churches are forbidden to affiliate with any denomination, and the fellowship, administered by annually elected trustees, cannot organize itself as a denomination. Anyway at least once a year we set up a tent and have an old-fashioned revival. Adulterous generally hide their actions. Many churches by this time had come under the domination of the Rome government and had ceased from being New Testament churches. NOT ONE. By 1626, the churches had grown from one, to five churches and by 1644 there were forty congregations. 14) before the Lord Jesus announced the coming establishment of the ekklesia. (Matt 16:18). In examining many so-called early Baptist churches you find many doctrinal errors and false teaching. I already estb basis of why Tithing I believe is good (must read all post under Lynne). There are a number of other wrong teachings w/in this church but the false teaching about baptism is far and away the biggest, some of the others are, not believing in eternal security, and close behind is not believing that one can know that you are saved. The true Independent Fundamental Baptists have no association or fellowship with these churches because they teach or practice things contrary to the New Testament. Mark 7:7, Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. God bless. The validity of a church as being a true Biblical New Testament church does not rest in it ability to show an unbroken line of succession from the time of Christ. "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am . If the apostle Peter wanted to show up to Church one day while he was stripped and naked he would probably not be allowed in most Churches unless he put on some clothes. If someone leaves the church and lives a worldly life style (no church or fellowship with Christ, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, fornication, homosexuality, etc.) 13:17, Acts 20:28, Eph. Our goal is to send out missionaries, home and abroad, that will start independent, fundamental Baptist churches. All systems of hierarchy set up by man over the authority of the local church has lead to doctrinal errors and corruption without exception and God has not party with them. But God knows his heart. This was the best onemembers in our church raise hands, say amen, clap after special music (GASP! These churches remained sound in doctrine and practicing the faith of the New Testament. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ This site is run by a Jack Hyles follower. They loved the Lord and many of them gave their lives and fortunes for the sake of Christ. Visit Pinterests profile on Pinterest. http://www.nakedpastor.com/2011/01/27/total-unaccountable-power/. And only imagination could describe what his mind and soul was experiencing. There was a fine of 2000 pounds of tobacco for failure to have ones infant children baptized. I dont understand the context of your comment. There were nine original members of the church which included two women. Thats NOT in the Bible anywhere! The Independent Baptist believes that to join with churches who teach and practice false doctrine is condone and even show approval of Biblical error and that all doctrinal error is sin. Filter Churches. If someone wanted to Tithe down to a tenth of all they owned & sell or give value of itIm sure they could. Lynne While I agree with most of your comment, I would be very interested in finding where Jesus teaches about tithing in the bible. The Person of Jesus Christ: Jesus is 100% God and 100% man for all eternity. Greg, Its ugly and frustrating. Most Baptist churches were in the past founded on the sound doctrinal teachings of the New Testament, however, many of them have in varying degrees drifted away from many of the teachings of the Scriptures. One of the most unsettling things to experience is dealing with corruption in power. Hello, Ministry experience: Over thirty years of experience in Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches, serving in . If I wanted to wear a sponge bob costume while leading worship I probably would not be allowed to do this in most Churches. Roger Williams is credited with founding the first Baptist church on American soil. Questions/comments: Pastor Brewer's email: Wprophet@aol.com. Where the pastors power is total? Pastors tiptoe around specific sins so not to offend. By 1644, these congregations grew to seven churches. I will not post here again. @Saved By Grace 3:3). Please note that this presented no problem for this first Baptist church in America. Hear personal testimonies and watch missionary slideshows with RealAudio narratives. KJV Church Directory. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. The church government of many Independent Baptist churches are to have pastors and deacons as officers of the local church. They do not accept that authority was given to any particular man, pope, prophet, group or church on earth to be the means of the salvation of men. The acapella voices were very beautiful, and I knew she would have enjoyed hearing them. Is it based on the individual church or whole congregations? A person can rightly take pride in truthfully bearing the name Baptist. WHEN AND WHERE WAS THE FIRST RECORDED BAPTIST CHURCH IN HISTORY. Some IFB are good fellowships, some Plymouth Brethren Open) are good fellowships..etc. Independent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. Christ suffered and gave His life to save you from hell, it's time you start going to a church that actually believes that. I believe every one should realize that all is God & if a saint desires to put a tenth to honor God & furthering His kingdom or whatver portion as He desiresthat s a noble act between God & Himself. 3:1-16) However, some Independent Baptist churches do not accept that the word "officer" is the proper biblical term to be used and particularly does not apply to deacons. Im sorry Brother Irv, but you are wrong. Follow us on Pinterest: They were then tarred and feathered and ran out of the county. He spoke aganist them leaving the others things undone. 2 Timothy 3:16, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. I believe that the King James Version is the inspired, preserved Word of God for the English speaking people The ones Ive attend are really good. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination Welcome to BaptistDeception.com Edit Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. The cops accused them of urinating in the water. In 1688 a Baptist church was organized at Pennepeck, Pennsylvania with twelve members. The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. It was almost like watching 12yr olds trying to run a corporation. John was beheaded by Herod (Matt. God richly bless you and Merry Christmas! After working for a few hours in our home, the Dish tech stopped working and looked at me asking, Am I correct in believing this is a Christian home I am working in? I said yes. Join us for lively old-fashioned singing, fellowship, (and yes!) Ask these five questions of any church, and if they can answer all five in truth with a yes, then you will have a true Baptist church. The Anabaptists were mostly a God-fearing group of people. Salvation: It is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. I believe it is almost impossible to grow to a complete relationship with God without knowing his nature. As for being responsible to share the gospel with those whom God has put in our path; our daily life should show we are different by our character and the way we live. Benedict in his history of the Baptists states the Gospel was preached in Britain within sixty years of the Lords return to heaven. The name Independent Fundamental Baptist Church is used traditionally by churches which pattern themselves strictly after the example of the early church as found in the New Testament. We have special music and usually 2 preachers a night. In Germany, the state church is Lutheran and in England, the Anglican church, France, the Roman Catholic Church, etc. KJB,UNAFFILIATED. Since she has a place of her own now I dont see her as much as I like but I wont shun her because she left. Some of his former congregation in Salem joined him and they set up a colony. (II Peter 1:20) Baptist believe you do not have to be a Baptist in order to be saved and have eternal life, but a person must believe the Gospel as revealed in the New Testament.